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 Post: #16 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:39 pm 
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    Whenever I load the program, it says "Error loading program. OutOfMemoryException". Any1 help pls

It needs at least 20mb working internal memory. If your PDA is full of stuff it would be better to use the individual Aviasoft topic programs.;)
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Yeah, I use OmniaII I-8000 (8GB) with about 28MB of internal memory left. I install NATUREDATA on 16GB SDCard, and install the program on main storage card. First, I tried Nature Explorer 4.0, but because it causes error, I tried 3.5 version. It's still doing the same. Now, I just have to uninstall it, while knowing the program is so cool. Thanks anyway though.

Yes, I am sorry it doesn't work for your PDA. It is an odd error, given you seem to have enough memory to run it.

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 Post: #17 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:07 pm 
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Please forgive me for being slightly off topic, but I have been wanting to get back into programming after a 20 year gap. So, may I ask what language or developer software packaged you used to write this, please?

In the past I have dropped such questions as, "I want to get back into programming, what language should I go for?" into programming related forums, and as you can image it started a flame war of which language was going where and what their future is, etc. But, seeing what you have achieved here has placed you as the best person to ask. It's like eating a piece of cake that you know you want to eat for the rest of your life and asking the question, "What is the recipe, please?!" :D

It's obvious you are a busy person, and this isn't the setting, but if you could provide me with a first step direction as to what you used to create this masterpiece I would be very, very happy.

Many thanks for considering this. :)




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:35 am 
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Please forgive me for being slightly off topic, but I have been wanting to get back into programming after a 20 year gap. So, may I ask what language or developer software packaged you used to write this, please?

In the past I have dropped such questions as, "I want to get back into programming, what language should I go for?" into programming related forums, and as you can image it started a flame war of which language was going where and what their future is, etc. But, seeing what you have achieved here has placed you as the best person to ask. It's like eating a piece of cake that you know you want to eat for the rest of your life and asking the question, "What is the recipe, please?!" :D

It's obvious you are a busy person, and this isn't the setting, but if you could provide me with a first step direction as to what you used to create this masterpiece I would be very, very happy.

Many thanks for considering this. :)

Hi Bigclaw

I agree about the programming philosophy lessons from those who are too smart for their own good! It is true the fastest language is C++ and C does allow deeper access to the API but I personally prefer to get lots of coding things done in a small amount of time. So I use Basic4PPC 6.9. This can be found on this forum here...

http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=119944&hilit=basic4ppc

Basic4PPC is an object oriented Visual Basic 'like' language but less complicated than VB. If you haven't programmed since the MSDOS 'top down' language days then let me say that languages these days all use object oriented programming techniques. Which is just great! In the old days of DOS programming we had to create our fonts, image holders, everything. It took forever to create a program that these days, with OOP, can be done in a few hours when using a Basic variant like Visual Basic or Basic4PPC. So I use it because I am lazy and don't want to spend hours over some graphical display when it can be done in minutes with the language I use now.

Object Oriented Programming gives an environment where you start with a blank page and you can add the 'controls' (used to be ActiveX) by dragging them onto the page where you want them. So it is easy to create buttons, textboxes, image display areas, etc, in seconds to make up your page/form visually. Once you have done that you add code behind each control. OOP works by polling each control and if it is changed/clicked/edited, etc a chosen action or block of code is executed (like using interupt timers in older languages). It is pretty easy compared to olden day programming. Controls cover pretty much anything you could want to use, music player, image control, text, tabs, listbox, database. (You can also create your own controls using C but there are so many controls out there for Basic4PPC that there is no real need to do that.) My software is pretty basic really.

The reason I went from VB to B4PPC is simply that I wanted to program for both desktop and pocket PC environments and also I am not the smartest programmer around. B4PPC can be written on the Windows Mobile device or on the desktop. And you can produce your program in either environment. My nature programs have a version for PDA and a version for Windows XP/Vista/7. I don't have to change any code to compile them in either environment. I would be happy to help further if you decide to restart programming again. These modern languages are fun and easy compared to those of 20 years ago!

If you are considering programming for PDAs then the software you need depends on the platform. Basic4PPC only writes programs for windows and Windows Mobile 2002-2006.x

Windows Phone has yet to be implimented. Android and iPhone are piggish environments that take a lot of involvement to program within although the guy who brought out B4PPC has just released new software for Android (Basic4Android). It is too new to be on this forum, sadly.

Just email me via my aviasoft.org website. :)

Sarah

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 Post: #19 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
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I'm sorry to have taken so long to reply to this. I know we aren't allowed to say thank you posts, but if we were, this would have been one if you catch my drift? :)

I've described this wonderful program you have written to a friend and he is very keen to have it also and will be downloading it from your site. Donation options will be highly recommended to him. :)




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 Post: #20 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:35 pm 
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BigClaw wrote:
I'm sorry to have taken so long to reply to this. I know we aren't allowed to say thank you posts, but if we were, this would have been one if you catch my drift? :)


THANKS YOU! ;)

(Don't know about anyone else but I hate being told what I can and cannot do. ;) 8)

So just to make a point...

Thanks!

If you need any more help let me know.

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 Post: #21 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:09 pm 
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UPDATER SERVICE PACK 2 here...

This is a fileset and CABs/EXE for updating version 4.0 to version 4.2...


NX UPDATE 4.0 to 4.2 for PDA-VGA and PC

 http://www.filefactory.com/file/b534eg9/n/NX_UPDATE_4.2_VGA_PC.rar


NX UPDATE 4.0 to 4.2 for PDA-QVGA

 http://www.filefactory.com/file/b534efe/n/NX_UPDATE_4.2_QVGA_PC.rar

Direct download available from my website

This update includes the previous v4.1.3 fixes plus Photos for TREES and a Quick Tree finder feature.

The next FULL file release of Nature Explorer will be v4.5.

http://www.aviasoft.org

(Post links fixed. Sarah W)

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 Post: #22 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
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Hi,

I've stumbled across this wonderful app.
Is there a german translation of the database planned in the future...?

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 Post: #23 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
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gall wrote:
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I've stumbled across this wonderful app.
Is there a german translation of the database planned in the future...?

Greetings from Berlin

Hi, some of Aviasoft's single topic programs (that are included in this application) have German languages. But not all of them.

It would be a lot of work for a German-English speaking person to convert all 7 topics to German.

No full translation is available at present.

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 Post: #24 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:08 pm 
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Sarah I still have the same problem, when using a bird song in birds I get: native exception error has occurred in NatureX QVGA.exe
I see you doing the new version, so if You have any idea ....




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Sarah I still have the same problem, when using a bird song in birds I get: native exception error has occurred in NatureX QVGA.exe
I see you doing the new version, so if You have any idea ....

I believe native exceptions often refer to code accessing .net functions or DLL type external calls. Can you confirm if you are using a fully standard device? Some CE devices/phones have limited functionality (re: .net 2.0).

Either way, I will look more closely at the birdsong code and put in more error checking (to the coming 4.5 release) to see if I can overcome your error. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:38 am 
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I have net framework 3.5 version if you think on it.,
A mobile phone has the original ROM.
After installing the program still get the message: "The program you have installed may not display properly because it was designed for a previous version of Windows Mobile"




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I have net framework 3.5 version if you think on it.,
A mobile phone has the original ROM.
After installing the program still get the message: "The program you have installed may not display properly because it was designed for a previous version of Windows Mobile"

Ah, sounds like you do have a 100% WinMo device then. The message above doesn't mean much. No worries about that. I will go back to an earlier version of the program (which seemed to work) and look into what the difference is between that and what I am doing now. ;) Something has clearly been changed, to make it not work for you guys. If I find and fix this problem I will post a new QVGA CAB for you.

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 Post: #28 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:53 pm 
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FIX FOR BIRD SONGS ERROR??

Here is a file I would like you to copy to your PDA's program install folder. Then try to listen to bird songs again.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UG6QR850

The 'native exception' may be because it is missing this file. If this still does not make the bird songs work then I will post all 4 mp3 DLLs for you (it may be one of them is damaged and needs replacing).

Let me know how it goes?

Thanks

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 Post: #29 | Post subject: Re: Aviasoft Nature Explorer 4.0
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Sarah seems to be working!
I have tested the bird song almost 10 minutes and no error so far.,
Today I shall test more and I'll tell you results.,
Thanks a lot for this fix! :D




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Putumayo wrote:
Sarah seems to be working!
I have tested the bird song almost 10 minutes and no error so far.,
Today I shall test more and I'll tell you results.,
Thanks a lot for this fix! :D

Sweet! Actually, looking back to earlier versions I noticed that the FMOD.DLL file was somehow no longer in the cab. This was needed. It was as simple as that. Thanks for the heads up over the error. :)

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